> The OP makes the point that Google will find a way to use public contributions for Google\u2019s own profit.
That's an opinion on motivations, not a statement of fact, so I am not agreeing or disagreeing with that. My comment was only about CLAs and open-source licensing, and what each of them enables you to do (or not) with someone else's source code, and how your contributions may be used by others after you submit them, not a statement or response to their opinion.
> The sheer size of the response above, let alone content, is what creates the tone of \u201ctalking past the customer\u201d which is what has alienated so many people from Google. The problem I\u2019ve repeatedly experienced in Google open source and as a Google Cloud customer (contract with Google FDEs on-site) is that Googlers just don\u2019t listen. You can\u2019t trample the customer with your own narrative no matter how correct and elegant it is.
I'm sorry you've had negative experiences in the past, and I'm sorry to read that my response on the distinction between CLA & open-source licenses came across as not listening or talking past the customer \u2014 that was not the intent at all.
If you're open to it, I'm happy to chat with you separately (you can easily find me on Twitter or LinkedIn and send me a message) whether you want to discuss this topic, or your other experiences with Google open-source projects, or Google Cloud, and I can try to help, or just listen. If not, that's fine, no worries.
> You can disagree, but you can\u2019t deny the feelings of others. It just doesn\u2019t work that way.
I'm sorry that came across as not listening; my comment was only to clarify the notion of CLAs and how they relate to open-source licenses, without delving into business goals and future roadmaps (which I have no visibility into, nor control of, in this case).
Everyone is entitled to their opinions or feelings on how a company might or might not use open-source software or their motivations for open-sourcing (or not) of a project, and I'm not here to debate, explain or defend any company's decision in that regard. Again, my comment was limited to the scope of what a CLA brings to an open-source license of a project."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Fuchsia overview"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts"}},"_tags":["comment","author_mbrukman","story_23364172"],"author":"mbrukman","comment_text":"I've responded to the CLA / licensing issues in a separate sibling comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23365535); this comment is to respond to the rest of your post as it's a separate topic that's important in its own right.
> The OP makes the point that Google will find a way to use public contributions for Google\u2019s own profit.
That's an opinion on motivations, not a statement of fact, so I am not agreeing or disagreeing with that. My comment was only about CLAs and open-source licensing, and what each of them enables you to do (or not) with someone else's source code, and how your contributions may be used by others after you submit them, not a statement or response to their opinion.
> The sheer size of the response above, let alone content, is what creates the tone of \u201ctalking past the customer\u201d which is what has alienated so many people from Google. The problem I\u2019ve repeatedly experienced in Google open source and as a Google Cloud customer (contract with Google FDEs on-site) is that Googlers just don\u2019t listen. You can\u2019t trample the customer with your own narrative no matter how correct and elegant it is.
I'm sorry you've had negative experiences in the past, and I'm sorry to read that my response on the distinction between CLA & open-source licenses came across as not listening or talking past the customer \u2014 that was not the intent at all.
If you're open to it, I'm happy to chat with you separately (you can easily find me on Twitter or LinkedIn and send me a message) whether you want to discuss this topic, or your other experiences with Google open-source projects, or Google Cloud, and I can try to help, or just listen. If not, that's fine, no worries.
> You can disagree, but you can\u2019t deny the feelings of others. It just doesn\u2019t work that way.
I'm sorry that came across as not listening; my comment was only to clarify the notion of CLAs and how they relate to open-source licenses, without delving into business goals and future roadmaps (which I have no visibility into, nor control of, in this case).
Everyone is entitled to their opinions or feelings on how a company might or might not use open-source software or their motivations for open-sourcing (or not) of a project, and I'm not here to debate, explain or defend any company's decision in that regard. Again, my comment was limited to the scope of what a CLA brings to an open-source license of a project.","created_at":"2020-05-30T23:52:02Z","created_at_i":1590882722,"objectID":"23365922","parent_id":23364940,"story_id":23364172,"story_title":"Fuchsia overview","story_url":"https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts","updated_at":"2024-09-20T06:17:46Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"choppaface"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"The point is that when a non-Googler contributes code, it\u2019s non-proprietary since the non-Googler is by definition a non-Googler. What the CLA does not prohibit is proprietary use\u2014- your lengthy answer. The OP makes the point that Google will find a way to use public contributions for Google\u2019s own profit.
The sheer size of the response above, let alone content, is what creates the tone of \u201ctalking past the customer\u201d which is what has alienated so many people from Google. The problem I\u2019ve repeatedly experienced in Google open source and as a Google Cloud customer (contract with Google FDEs on-site) is that Googlers just don\u2019t listen. You can\u2019t trample the customer with your own narrative no matter how correct and elegant it is. You can disagree, but you can\u2019t deny the feelings of others. It just doesn\u2019t work that way."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Fuchsia overview"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts"}},"_tags":["comment","author_choppaface","story_23364172"],"author":"choppaface","children":[23365071,23365535,23365922],"comment_text":"The point is that when a non-Googler contributes code, it\u2019s non-proprietary since the non-Googler is by definition a non-Googler. What the CLA does not prohibit is proprietary use\u2014- your lengthy answer. The OP makes the point that Google will find a way to use public contributions for Google\u2019s own profit.
The sheer size of the response above, let alone content, is what creates the tone of \u201ctalking past the customer\u201d which is what has alienated so many people from Google. The problem I\u2019ve repeatedly experienced in Google open source and as a Google Cloud customer (contract with Google FDEs on-site) is that Googlers just don\u2019t listen. You can\u2019t trample the customer with your own narrative no matter how correct and elegant it is. You can disagree, but you can\u2019t deny the feelings of others. It just doesn\u2019t work that way.","created_at":"2020-05-30T21:31:44Z","created_at_i":1590874304,"objectID":"23364940","parent_id":23364811,"story_id":23364172,"story_title":"Fuchsia overview","story_url":"https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts","updated_at":"2024-09-20T06:17:40Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["fde"],"value":"JSR_FDED"},"story_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["google","cloud"],"value":"Short question: Currently I\u2019m a Dropbox user on Mac, is iCloud a viable alternative? If not, who do you have a good experience with?
I\u2019ve been a happy Dropbox user for 10+ years, it\u2019s rock-solid syncing of a local directory with my other devices and the cloud has never let me down.
However, I\u2019m starting to feel uneasy about staying with them. In the last years they\u2019ve tried to cram more and more functionality I don\u2019t care about (functions not related to syncing files) into the product, their menu-bar app has become a monster, and I\u2019m tired of the up-sell nudges.
Apple is also transitioning all the cloud filesystem companies (like Dropbox, Google Drive, MS One Drive, etc) to use the MacOS File Provider API - probably a good thing to ensure there is a consistent experience for users. But that also makes me think they\u2019re all going to perform exactly the same. I could be wrong of course.
Considering all that I want is for a directory tree to be mirrored between the cloud and my devices, are there any alternatives you\u2019d recommend? Have you had good/bad experiences with iCloud say in the last 2 years?"},"title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Ask HN: Is iCloud a viable alternative to Dropbox? Any other alternatives?"}},"_tags":["story","author_JSR_FDED","story_40104547","ask_hn"],"author":"JSR_FDED","children":[40104576,40104581,40104621,40104625,40104629,40104632,40104640,40104672,40104703,40104716,40104729,40104753,40104769,40104771,40104802,40104806,40104815,40104827,40104919,40104921,40104938,40104973,40104999,40105051,40105115,40105154,40105257,40105358,40105919,40106172,40106265,40107045,40107793,40107897,40108172,40108203,40108377,40108573,40108617,40108804,40110733,40111179,40111187,40111601,40111622,40111994,40112323,40112392,40112559,40113322,40113921,40114288,40115402,40115433,40115437,40115615,40116340,40117492,40120611,40123061,40129703,40132139,40139105],"created_at":"2024-04-21T10:29:29Z","created_at_i":1713695369,"num_comments":133,"objectID":"40104547","points":94,"story_id":40104547,"story_text":"Short question: Currently I\u2019m a Dropbox user on Mac, is iCloud a viable alternative? If not, who do you have a good experience with?
I\u2019ve been a happy Dropbox user for 10+ years, it\u2019s rock-solid syncing of a local directory with my other devices and the cloud has never let me down.
However, I\u2019m starting to feel uneasy about staying with them. In the last years they\u2019ve tried to cram more and more functionality I don\u2019t care about (functions not related to syncing files) into the product, their menu-bar app has become a monster, and I\u2019m tired of the up-sell nudges.
Apple is also transitioning all the cloud filesystem companies (like Dropbox, Google Drive, MS One Drive, etc) to use the MacOS File Provider API - probably a good thing to ensure there is a consistent experience for users. But that also makes me think they\u2019re all going to perform exactly the same. I could be wrong of course.
Considering all that I want is for a directory tree to be mirrored between the cloud and my devices, are there any alternatives you\u2019d recommend? Have you had good/bad experiences with iCloud say in the last 2 years?","title":"Ask HN: Is iCloud a viable alternative to Dropbox? Any other alternatives?","updated_at":"2026-04-26T02:30:35Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"faust201"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"> third issue is that it's Google. There's no telling when they'll pull the plug on this.
That is exactly the reason to use ChromeOS/flex.
The UI is well designed to use cloud as storage space. i.e no worries when anything folds including hardware failure.
I have not used Aurora but does it automatically do FDE? Does the user need to install chrome or Firefox? I have seen people saving passwords locally and not syncing. One fine day Xorg (or wayland gives up). Then one needs to go to users place and fix it. I did install flex on my parents machine in the other side of globe. It still works updates seamless.
I recommended ChromeOS (despite the pain of needed ublock origin ) mainly because users need to remember only one password. i.e Google 's password.
While I am a daily driver of Linux/Xubuntu, the UI from kde/gnome etc is not that friendly as ChromeOS (which mimics Android).
Not detecting printer is specific situation. This could also happen with many Linux distros.
Of course it is all IMHO."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Creating a Proxmox or QEMU ChromeOS Flex VM"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://kevindavid.org/code/2024/03/20/chrome-os-flex-proxmox.html"}},"_tags":["comment","author_faust201","story_42311828"],"author":"faust201","children":[42316484],"comment_text":"> third issue is that it's Google. There's no telling when they'll pull the plug on this.
That is exactly the reason to use ChromeOS/flex.
The UI is well designed to use cloud as storage space. i.e no worries when anything folds including hardware failure.
I have not used Aurora but does it automatically do FDE? Does the user need to install chrome or Firefox? I have seen people saving passwords locally and not syncing. One fine day Xorg (or wayland gives up). Then one needs to go to users place and fix it. I did install flex on my parents machine in the other side of globe. It still works updates seamless.
I recommended ChromeOS (despite the pain of needed ublock origin ) mainly because users need to remember only one password. i.e Google 's password.
While I am a daily driver of Linux/Xubuntu, the UI from kde/gnome etc is not that friendly as ChromeOS (which mimics Android).
Not detecting printer is specific situation. This could also happen with many Linux distros.
Of course it is all IMHO.","created_at":"2024-12-04T06:15:01Z","created_at_i":1733292901,"objectID":"42314882","parent_id":42314371,"story_id":42311828,"story_title":"Creating a Proxmox or QEMU ChromeOS Flex VM","story_url":"https://kevindavid.org/code/2024/03/20/chrome-os-flex-proxmox.html","updated_at":"2024-12-04T11:29:45Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Operative0198"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"It matters to me that my digital data (PII or not) is not tracked aimlessly and sold to 3rd parties without my consent. So,
I use a VPN because I don't trust my ISP.
I use LineageOS with microG because I don't trust the phone manufacturer and Google to not track me.
I use Linux coz fuck Windows. Hardened with secureboot and FDE with TPM.
I use ungoogled chromium with uBlock and NoScript.
I also selfhost most of the services that I can replace with FOSS alternatives. Can be a PITA maintaining them at times but I sleep happy at night knowing my data is not on some Google(-like) farm. E.g For Youtube I do make use of public invidious instances etc.
Any app (on phone and PC) that doesn't need internet permissions (or any other unnecessary permissions) has them toggled off. Flatpaks and flatseal makes this so easy on Linux.
Any social media app that works well as a PWA is not installed. And if needed on my phone, it's installed into the secondary work profile where it can't read my files/contacts/etc.
All data I consider private is encrypted at-rest. Same is routinely backed up to different cloud storage providers.
Any account that I consider important has 2FA behind it. Most accounts I just use disposable emails to register.
Ads are all effectively blocked on the devices I use courtesy of dns filtering."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Ask HN: What do you do for online privacy?"}},"_tags":["comment","author_Operative0198","story_33558737"],"author":"Operative0198","children":[33560595],"comment_text":"It matters to me that my digital data (PII or not) is not tracked aimlessly and sold to 3rd parties without my consent. So,
I use a VPN because I don't trust my ISP.
I use LineageOS with microG because I don't trust the phone manufacturer and Google to not track me.
I use Linux coz fuck Windows. Hardened with secureboot and FDE with TPM.
I use ungoogled chromium with uBlock and NoScript.
I also selfhost most of the services that I can replace with FOSS alternatives. Can be a PITA maintaining them at times but I sleep happy at night knowing my data is not on some Google(-like) farm. E.g For Youtube I do make use of public invidious instances etc.
Any app (on phone and PC) that doesn't need internet permissions (or any other unnecessary permissions) has them toggled off. Flatpaks and flatseal makes this so easy on Linux.
Any social media app that works well as a PWA is not installed. And if needed on my phone, it's installed into the secondary work profile where it can't read my files/contacts/etc.
All data I consider private is encrypted at-rest. Same is routinely backed up to different cloud storage providers.
Any account that I consider important has 2FA behind it. Most accounts I just use disposable emails to register.
Ads are all effectively blocked on the devices I use courtesy of dns filtering.","created_at":"2022-11-11T11:47:40Z","created_at_i":1668167260,"objectID":"33559558","parent_id":33558737,"story_id":33558737,"story_title":"Ask HN: What do you do for online privacy?","updated_at":"2024-09-20T12:29:31Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"huggingmouth"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"I bought a rm2 a while back but abandoned it when I discovered it had extremely weak security: no fde, a weak remotely-resettable 4 digit pin, no local file syncing (doesn't appear as a mass storage device when plugged in as a usb, doesnt support standard file transfer protocols), non-e2ee (!!) cloud syncing (their company can see my notes unencrypted).
Now I use an android tablet that I locked down + synching and i couldn't be happier. The only thing I'm missing now is a good note taking app that writes my notes to a directory that can be synced with synching. Recent versions of android broke this for all apps except Google's Files app unfortunately."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"reMarkable 2"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://remarkable.com/"}},"_tags":["comment","author_huggingmouth","story_33352967"],"author":"huggingmouth","children":[33355268,33355560,33355561,33355641,33355650,33356330,33356774,33360015],"comment_text":"I bought a rm2 a while back but abandoned it when I discovered it had extremely weak security: no fde, a weak remotely-resettable 4 digit pin, no local file syncing (doesn't appear as a mass storage device when plugged in as a usb, doesnt support standard file transfer protocols), non-e2ee (!!) cloud syncing (their company can see my notes unencrypted).
Now I use an android tablet that I locked down + synching and i couldn't be happier. The only thing I'm missing now is a good note taking app that writes my notes to a directory that can be synced with synching. Recent versions of android broke this for all apps except Google's Files app unfortunately.","created_at":"2022-10-27T09:23:07Z","created_at_i":1666862587,"objectID":"33355186","parent_id":33352967,"story_id":33352967,"story_title":"reMarkable 2","story_url":"https://remarkable.com/","updated_at":"2024-09-20T12:25:05Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"swader"},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"Google Cloud: new features, lower prices, extending European datacenters"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2012/11/google-cloud-platform-new-features.html"}},"_tags":["story","author_swader","story_4833128"],"author":"swader","created_at":"2012-11-26T18:20:15Z","created_at_i":1353954015,"num_comments":0,"objectID":"4833128","points":5,"story_id":4833128,"title":"Google Cloud: new features, lower prices, extending European datacenters","updated_at":"2024-09-19T19:05:01Z","url":"http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2012/11/google-cloud-platform-new-features.html"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Brajeshwar"},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"Google Ends Cloud Switching Fees, Pressuring Amazon and Microsoft"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-11/google-googl-ends-switching-fees-for-cloud-data-pressuring-amazon-microsoft"}},"_tags":["story","author_Brajeshwar","story_38953461"],"author":"Brajeshwar","children":[38953572],"created_at":"2024-01-11T15:25:56Z","created_at_i":1704986756,"num_comments":1,"objectID":"38953461","points":4,"story_id":38953461,"title":"Google Ends Cloud Switching Fees, Pressuring Amazon and Microsoft","updated_at":"2024-09-20T16:05:29Z","url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-11/google-googl-ends-switching-fees-for-cloud-data-pressuring-amazon-microsoft"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"lawrenceyan"},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"CMU Dean Andrew Moore to Lead Google Cloud AI; Fei-Fei Li Returns to Stanford"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"https://medium.com/syncedreview/cmu-dean-andrew-moore-to-lead-google-cloud-ai-fei-fei-li-returns-to-stanford-3a993110f6cb"}},"_tags":["story","author_lawrenceyan","story_18094927"],"author":"lawrenceyan","children":[18094949,18094978],"created_at":"2018-09-28T17:00:09Z","created_at_i":1538154009,"num_comments":1,"objectID":"18094927","points":1,"story_id":18094927,"title":"CMU Dean Andrew Moore to Lead Google Cloud AI; Fei-Fei Li Returns to Stanford","updated_at":"2024-09-20T03:10:18Z","url":"https://medium.com/syncedreview/cmu-dean-andrew-moore-to-lead-google-cloud-ai-fei-fei-li-returns-to-stanford-3a993110f6cb"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"karmaniak"},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"Google Cloud Fest Hackathon with HackerEarth"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"https://www.hackerearth.com/challenges/hackathon/cloud-fest-hackathon-i-presented-by-google-cloud/"}},"_tags":["story","author_karmaniak","story_30613073"],"author":"karmaniak","created_at":"2022-03-09T10:43:24Z","created_at_i":1646822604,"num_comments":0,"objectID":"30613073","points":1,"story_id":30613073,"title":"Google Cloud Fest Hackathon with HackerEarth","updated_at":"2024-09-20T10:38:51Z","url":"https://www.hackerearth.com/challenges/hackathon/cloud-fest-hackathon-i-presented-by-google-cloud/"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"fomojola"},"story_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"I built BotArchive (https://www.botarchive.com) to make it easy to save content to cloud storage: you connect it to your Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, Dropbox or Box, and then anything you send to it gets automatically saved in the attached storage location.
I'd originally built it for Telegram and Slack, but I've been long interested in doing things with print: printing has long felt like one of the biggest underutilized output processes out there. Almost every piece of software has print integration, the output format is usually legible and for things like receipts I always find myself printing them out, and then copying them to Google Drive.
So I built a custom IPP printer: no drivers needed on Windows, OSX or Android (haven't tried iOS yet but I assume its the same), easy configuration and prints PDFs that appear right in your cloud storage location of choice (handy replacement for the missing Google Cloud Print feature). Future work includes parsing the printed PDFs for things like conversion into a Kindle book, or extracting financial data.
Feedback welcome!"},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["google"],"value":"Show HN: BotArchive \u2013 Print Directly to Google Drive from Windows"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["cloud"],"value":"https://www.botarchive.com/lp/how-to-print-directly-to-cloud-storage-on-windows"}},"_tags":["story","author_fomojola","story_39387382","show_hn"],"author":"fomojola","created_at":"2024-02-15T19:32:07Z","created_at_i":1708025527,"num_comments":0,"objectID":"39387382","points":3,"story_id":39387382,"story_text":"I built BotArchive (https://www.botarchive.com) to make it easy to save content to cloud storage: you connect it to your Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, Dropbox or Box, and then anything you send to it gets automatically saved in the attached storage location.
I'd originally built it for Telegram and Slack, but I've been long interested in doing things with print: printing has long felt like one of the biggest underutilized output processes out there. Almost every piece of software has print integration, the output format is usually legible and for things like receipts I always find myself printing them out, and then copying them to Google Drive.
So I built a custom IPP printer: no drivers needed on Windows, OSX or Android (haven't tried iOS yet but I assume its the same), easy configuration and prints PDFs that appear right in your cloud storage location of choice (handy replacement for the missing Google Cloud Print feature). Future work includes parsing the printed PDFs for things like conversion into a Kindle book, or extracting financial data.
Feedback welcome!","title":"Show HN: BotArchive \u2013 Print Directly to Google Drive from Windows","updated_at":"2024-09-20T16:30:07Z","url":"https://www.botarchive.com/lp/how-to-print-directly-to-cloud-storage-on-windows"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"alexgaribay"},"story_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"Hi HN community!
I just launched my first paid SaaS, https://crimsonaegis.com. Crimson Aegis is a data loss prevention (DLP) integration for Slack. It checks your Slack messages to make sure you aren't posting sensitive information like credit card number and social security numbers and gives the option to remove messages.
Use the promo code HN20 for a 20% discount on your subscription when you sign up!
About the stack:\n* 100% Elixir with Phoenix\n* Postgres for DB\n* Hosted on Google Cloud
Any feedback is greatly appreciated!"},"title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Show HN: Crimson Aegis \u2013 Data Loss Prevention for Slack"}},"_tags":["story","author_alexgaribay","story_14783039","show_hn"],"author":"alexgaribay","created_at":"2017-07-16T17:22:16Z","created_at_i":1500225736,"num_comments":0,"objectID":"14783039","points":2,"story_id":14783039,"story_text":"Hi HN community!
I just launched my first paid SaaS, https://crimsonaegis.com. Crimson Aegis is a data loss prevention (DLP) integration for Slack. It checks your Slack messages to make sure you aren't posting sensitive information like credit card number and social security numbers and gives the option to remove messages.
Use the promo code HN20 for a 20% discount on your subscription when you sign up!
About the stack:\n* 100% Elixir with Phoenix\n* Postgres for DB\n* Hosted on Google Cloud
Any feedback is greatly appreciated!","title":"Show HN: Crimson Aegis \u2013 Data Loss Prevention for Slack","updated_at":"2024-09-20T01:07:19Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"justinsb"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"I'm working on adding AWS support for Kubernetes. I just last week finished Load-Balancer (ELB) & Persistent Storage (EBS) support, and they're currently going through the pull-request review process. Once they merge (I'd guess a week or two?), AWS will be on-par with Google Cloud Engine feature-wise.
I have found the Kubernetes team to be nothing other than extremely supportive of efforts to support AWS & non-Google platforms. It takes a little longer to translate some of the Google-isms to other platforms, but I'm happy for the thinking behind those decisions, vs just adopting lowest-common denominator."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"CoreOS (YC S13) Raises $12M to Bring Kubernetes to the Enterprise"},"story_url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["google"],"value":"http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/06/coreos-raises-12m-funding-round-led-by-google-ventures-to-bring-kubernetes-to-the-enterprise/"}},"_tags":["comment","author_justinsb","story_9329259"],"author":"justinsb","children":[9330156,9330243],"comment_text":"I'm working on adding AWS support for Kubernetes. I just last week finished Load-Balancer (ELB) & Persistent Storage (EBS) support, and they're currently going through the pull-request review process. Once they merge (I'd guess a week or two?), AWS will be on-par with Google Cloud Engine feature-wise.
I have found the Kubernetes team to be nothing other than extremely supportive of efforts to support AWS & non-Google platforms. It takes a little longer to translate some of the Google-isms to other platforms, but I'm happy for the thinking behind those decisions, vs just adopting lowest-common denominator.","created_at":"2015-04-06T19:20:56Z","created_at_i":1428348056,"objectID":"9330131","parent_id":9330049,"points":null,"story_id":9329259,"story_title":"CoreOS (YC S13) Raises $12M to Bring Kubernetes to the Enterprise","story_url":"http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/06/coreos-raises-12m-funding-round-led-by-google-ventures-to-bring-kubernetes-to-the-enterprise/","updated_at":"2023-09-07T02:27:57Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"NitpickLawyer"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"> Is Vertex hosting it themselves on their own hardware?
Yes, you can even choose regions, for EU they serve it from Belgium. With all the encrypted at rest stuff and other guarantees that vertex provides.
> Important: Accessing Claude models through Vertex AI meets the FedRAMP High requirements, and operates within the Google Cloud FedRAMP High authorization boundary."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://avkcode.github.io/blog/us-winning-ai-race.html"}},"_tags":["comment","author_NitpickLawyer","story_48121929"],"author":"NitpickLawyer","comment_text":"> Is Vertex hosting it themselves on their own hardware?
Yes, you can even choose regions, for EU they serve it from Belgium. With all the encrypted at rest stuff and other guarantees that vertex provides.
> Important: Accessing Claude models through Vertex AI meets the FedRAMP High requirements, and operates within the Google Cloud FedRAMP High authorization boundary.","created_at":"2026-05-13T14:42:04Z","created_at_i":1778683324,"objectID":"48122596","parent_id":48122509,"story_id":48121929,"story_title":"The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization","story_url":"https://avkcode.github.io/blog/us-winning-ai-race.html","updated_at":"2026-05-13T23:29:52Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"dartharva"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"> Google\u2019s Cloud feels like the best engineered one, though lack of proper human support is worrying there compared to AWS.
Also the lack of locations in general. GCP's fleet is tiny compared to both AWS and Azure"},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Decisions that eroded trust in Azure \u2013 by a former Azure Core engineer"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion"}},"_tags":["comment","author_dartharva","story_47616242"],"author":"dartharva","comment_text":"> Google\u2019s Cloud feels like the best engineered one, though lack of proper human support is worrying there compared to AWS.
Also the lack of locations in general. GCP's fleet is tiny compared to both AWS and Azure","created_at":"2026-04-04T10:52:46Z","created_at_i":1775299966,"objectID":"47637906","parent_id":47620938,"story_id":47616242,"story_title":"Decisions that eroded trust in Azure \u2013 by a former Azure Core engineer","story_url":"https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion","updated_at":"2026-04-04T10:55:11Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"ludwigvan"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"I had the misfortune of having to use Azure back in 2018 and was appalled at the lack of quality, slowness. I was in GitHub forums, helping other customers suffering from lack of basic functionality, incredible prices with abysmal performance. This article explains a lot honestly.
Google\u2019s Cloud feels like the best engineered one, though lack of proper human support is worrying there compared to AWS."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Decisions that eroded trust in Azure \u2013 by a former Azure Core engineer"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion"}},"_tags":["comment","author_ludwigvan","story_47616242"],"author":"ludwigvan","children":[47621509,47622649,47624390,47629899,47637906,47656371],"comment_text":"I had the misfortune of having to use Azure back in 2018 and was appalled at the lack of quality, slowness. I was in GitHub forums, helping other customers suffering from lack of basic functionality, incredible prices with abysmal performance. This article explains a lot honestly.
Google\u2019s Cloud feels like the best engineered one, though lack of proper human support is worrying there compared to AWS.","created_at":"2026-04-02T22:21:38Z","created_at_i":1775168498,"objectID":"47620938","parent_id":47616242,"story_id":47616242,"story_title":"Decisions that eroded trust in Azure \u2013 by a former Azure Core engineer","story_url":"https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion","updated_at":"2026-08-17T18:39:17Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"brightball"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"I ran a project for a company on Google Cloud a few years ago and enjoyed it once I got used to everything. I\u2019d use it more now if they had better low end pricing to start projects there.
It\u2019s a very different experience than AWS though and takes some getting used to."},"story_title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"partial","matchedWords":["google"],"value":"Google Workspace CLI"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli"}},"_tags":["comment","author_brightball","story_47255881"],"author":"brightball","comment_text":"I ran a project for a company on Google Cloud a few years ago and enjoyed it once I got used to everything. I\u2019d use it more now if they had better low end pricing to start projects there.
It\u2019s a very different experience than AWS though and takes some getting used to.","created_at":"2026-03-05T03:55:04Z","created_at_i":1772682904,"objectID":"47257339","parent_id":47257310,"story_id":47255881,"story_title":"Google Workspace CLI","story_url":"https://github.com/googleworkspace/cli","updated_at":"2026-03-05T23:41:57Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"heymijo"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"The really fun part was after getting billing finally set up in the cloud console trying to find what model name you actually have to use to call it via the API. \nConflicting information? Sure! Gemini cloud help being useless? Naturally.
Oh and don\u2019t forget that error message being returned when you try to call the API is because you didn\u2019t give your project the proper permissions in google cloud console. What permissions do you need? \u00af\\_(\u30c4)_/\u00af
Google Cloud Console feels like being stuck in the seventh circle of hell."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://ankursethi.com/blog/gemini-api-key-frustration/"}},"_tags":["comment","author_heymijo","story_46223311"],"author":"heymijo","comment_text":"The really fun part was after getting billing finally set up in the cloud console trying to find what model name you actually have to use to call it via the API. \nConflicting information? Sure! Gemini cloud help being useless? Naturally.
Oh and don\u2019t forget that error message being returned when you try to call the API is because you didn\u2019t give your project the proper permissions in google cloud console. What permissions do you need? \u00af\\_(\u30c4)_/\u00af
Google Cloud Console feels like being stuck in the seventh circle of hell.","created_at":"2025-12-11T13:30:40Z","created_at_i":1765459840,"objectID":"46231135","parent_id":46225222,"story_id":46223311,"story_title":"Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration","story_url":"https://ankursethi.com/blog/gemini-api-key-frustration/","updated_at":"2026-03-05T23:09:19Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"bgwalter"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["google","cloud","fde"],"value":"Cantrill is partially wrong:
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