> I do not need a dumber-than-intern agent
two tells that you have not updated since 2023"},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"The Generative AI Con"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/"}},"_tags":["comment","author_swyx","story_43085885"],"author":"swyx","comment_text":"> the /completions API
> I do not need a dumber-than-intern agent
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GenAI is - imo - an assistant. Copilot does effectively templating.
I can have ChatGPT read an email and check it for tone.
Claude can comment on camera kit.
Claude does a very nice image recognition for obscure things.
What I have become persuaded of is that the /completions API is simply not much more than +10% or a low key helper.
I do not need a dumber-than-intern agent going ape on my codebase at speed, which is, approximately, what the codegen tools seem to do.
I saw a self driving car startup using a GPT neural network to recognize images during driving. I would assess that class of use as plausibly very promising.
I would also hazard that Shirkys BS jobs thesis is being proved true, because if a hallucinating ai can do it...
Anyway.
I don't think the fundamentals justify the spend. I think there's too much vitriol, but there's also too much hype & by a country mile too."},"story_title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"The Generative AI Con"},"story_url":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/"}},"_tags":["comment","author_pnathan","story_43085885"],"author":"pnathan","children":[43089599,43099649],"comment_text":"Directionally correct.
GenAI is - imo - an assistant. Copilot does effectively templating.
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Claude can comment on camera kit.
Claude does a very nice image recognition for obscure things.
What I have become persuaded of is that the /completions API is simply not much more than +10% or a low key helper.
I do not need a dumber-than-intern agent going ape on my codebase at speed, which is, approximately, what the codegen tools seem to do.
I saw a self driving car startup using a GPT neural network to recognize images during driving. I would assess that class of use as plausibly very promising.
I would also hazard that Shirkys BS jobs thesis is being proved true, because if a hallucinating ai can do it...
Anyway.
I don't think the fundamentals justify the spend. I think there's too much vitriol, but there's also too much hype & by a country mile too.","created_at":"2025-02-18T13:43:19Z","created_at_i":1739886199,"objectID":"43089357","parent_id":43085885,"story_id":43085885,"story_title":"The Generative AI Con","story_url":"https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/","updated_at":"2025-07-25T10:13:04Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"matt_kantor"},"comment_text":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["internagent"],"value":"> and redirect web traffic from HTTP to HTTPS.
The original post [advises against this][1]:
> Redirects are discouraged since they allow sloppy/bad client behaviour without providing any clear gain. Clients that rely on redirects double up on server traffic and render TLS useless since sensitive data will already have been exposed during the first call.
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The original post [advises against this][1]:
> Redirects are discouraged since they allow sloppy/bad client behaviour without providing any clear gain. Clients that rely on redirects double up on server traffic and render TLS useless since sensitive data will already have been exposed during the first call.
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I used it at my previous job, but didn't find it gave me that many benefits, although there wasn't anything particularly wrong with it either. It just seems like a challenging problem to properly solve with any organization.
I was initially really interested in GraphQL and Relay, but when I tried em out I found em lacking for our small engineering team. I feel kinda similar with all these other alternative tools. I think if you have any API stability problems, you need to tackle it at an organizational level. The API team needs to communicate openly with the web frontend and mobile app team (which might include a cross-section of highly-mixed-specialty people) to make sure all changes are fully backwards compatible. I don't think the tools do a great job at helping you tackle complex issues.
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