{"author":"mikestew","children":[{"author":"wyre","children":[{"author":"mikestew","children":[],"created_at":"2024-04-10T21:23:48.000Z","created_at_i":1712784228,"id":39995878,"options":[],"parent_id":39995162,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"I&#x27;ve tried WorkoutDoors. I used to use it exclusively back when the stock watchOS app kinda sucked (three second countdown before starting, seriously, Apple?) It&#x27;s a fine app (except that it doesn&#x27;t handle the Always On Display gracefully because it&#x27;s written in Obj-C), but doesn&#x27;t fill the role that this app is trying to fill.<p>And frankly, since Apple spruced up the built-in app in watchOS 9, I find the stock app to be just fine for my purposes, and I no longer use WoD. (And that includes interval work, tempo, and ultramarathon-distance races.) If I need mapping, I use Footpath, which does a much better job on the mapping front that WoD does.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null}],"created_at":"2024-04-10T20:05:56.000Z","created_at_i":1712779556,"id":39995162,"options":[],"parent_id":39991813,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"Have you tried WorkOutDoors? It\u2019s the best workout app on Apple Watch&#x2F;iOS I\u2019ve ever used by far. It can give you notifications between power zones as well and it\u2019s a paid app with no subscription.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null},{"author":"ianmcgowan","children":[{"author":"mikestew","children":[],"created_at":"2024-04-10T21:20:31.000Z","created_at_i":1712784031,"id":39995843,"options":[],"parent_id":39995304,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"I&#x27;ve used WorkOutdoors, but that&#x27;s not what this app proposes to replace.<p><i>...if you don&#x27;t have some external sensor then power is probably derived from VO2max.</i><p>Your information is out of date. Wrist-based power is a thing now.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null}],"created_at":"2024-04-10T20:20:20.000Z","created_at_i":1712780420,"id":39995304,"options":[],"parent_id":39991813,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"I use (and highly recommend) WorkOutdoors for tracking outside runs.  It supports an alert for power thresholds but requires an external sensor (like a stryd) to enable them.<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.outsideonline.com&#x2F;health&#x2F;training-performance&#x2F;running-power-meter-comparison-study&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.outsideonline.com&#x2F;health&#x2F;training-performance&#x2F;ru...</a> is interesting - one thing I get from the discussion on &quot;what is running power?&quot; is if you don&#x27;t have some external sensor then power is probably derived from VO2max.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null},{"author":"laihj","children":[],"created_at":"2024-04-11T07:49:46.000Z","created_at_i":1712821786,"id":39999450,"options":[],"parent_id":39991813,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"Thank you, It&#x27;s nice advice, I will think about it.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null},{"author":"laihj","children":[],"created_at":"2024-04-11T08:39:33.000Z","created_at_i":1712824773,"id":39999831,"options":[],"parent_id":39991813,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"Sorry about the subscription sheet, It can be closed by just pull it down.\nAnd I will add a close button later.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null}],"created_at":"2024-04-10T15:28:25.000Z","created_at_i":1712762905,"id":39991813,"options":[],"parent_id":39991282,"points":null,"story_id":39986748,"text":"As far as I can tell, the app won&#x27;t do anything until you sign up for the free trial (which, if you forget, will convert to paid). There&#x27;s a modal subscription sheet which won&#x27;t go away until you choose the free trial. Frankly, that&#x27;s not a good first impression for an app that&#x27;s advertised as &quot;free&quot;. Give me <i>some</i> functionality, or quit listing it as &quot;free&quot;.<p>As for the rest, meh, it&#x27;s okay. If you&#x27;re &#x27;merican, you will find a few globalization issues (date format and weight in Kg). I bump the system text size up a notch (old eyes), and I see text overflow issues.<p>It does allow you to enter workouts that will sync to Apple Watch. That&#x27;s a nice one. Problem is, like every other 3rd party app that has &quot;build a workout&quot; functionality, it doesn&#x27;t do power alerts. I don&#x27;t use heart rate or pace for workouts anymore, it&#x27;s all power-based. And so far, only the stock Apple workout builder will do power alerts. I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s just not exposed in the API or what.<p>And finally, I don&#x27;t know where those heart rate zones came from, but they are <i>way</i> off (way too high).<p>This app might be handy for those that have previously only been using the stock Apple Health&#x2F;Fitness apps. But for $2&#x2F;month, I just don&#x27;t see the value add over the Garmin or Training Peaks (a paid app), or even HealthFit (free, and recommended). If the app were even a one-time $10, I&#x27;d probably spring for it. But a recurring subscription? Nope, there&#x27;s nothing about this app that I&#x27;d consider continuously pouring money into it. I deleted it, and cancelled the free trial.<p>I would <i>highly</i> recommend that the dev ditch the subscription model and make it a one-time purchase.","title":null,"type":"comment","url":null}
